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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2017, 07:56:02 PM »
Setting up the next scene:

54A    INT:  CARD ROOM - NIGHT                           54A

       Carolyn comes to her mother.

And that's when today's quote -

Page 16/Scene 54A - Carolyn: 'Mother, don't worry. We'll find them.'

- comes up.

End of scene - but certainly not the end of the sequence.

And as far as any differences in the dialogue, the directions, or the descriptions go here, what Carolyn actually says is "Don't worry, Mother. We'll find them." However, as can be seen in today's capture -


- Carolyn actually delivers her line off screen, and, in fact, we hear Carolyn say her "Don't worry" part while the camera is still on David's mischievously smiling face - and as it also obvious, the scene itself is not shot inside the Card Room but still from the vantage point of the hallway, despite the fact that DC has a notation in his script that there would be a medium shot of Carolyn that would pan to Liz for a 2 shot.
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #121 on: February 06, 2017, 09:20:32 PM »
And now the next scene:

54B    INT:  HALLWAY - NIGHT                             54B

       David is pleased with himself over the
       trouble he has caused.  He starts for the
       staircase.  He ducks back as Carolyn
        enters shot.


                                                          Rev. 3/25/70

54B    CONTD                                         CONTD 54B

And that's when today's quote -

Page 17/Scene 54B - Liz's Voice (O.S.): 'Carolyn, they have been gone too long. One of them should have been back by now.'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

David HEARS THE FRONT DOOR SLAM.  He darts under
the stairs, hiding.

End of scene - but certainly not the end of the sequence.

And as far as any differences in the dialogue, the directions, or the descriptions go here, as we can see in today's capture, Liz actually does sit down in the chair -


- that's visible through the doorway as she delivers today's quote, which Liz actually delivers mostly on screen as "They've been gone so long. One of them should have been", all on screen as Carolyn moves closer to her, "back by now", off screen - and David actually plasters himself fully against the wall -


- after Carolyn does so - but when David hears the door slam, the smile disappears from his face -


- and rather than darting under the stairs, as scripted, he darts into the shadows -


- outside the door to the Card Room just before we see Todd -



- coming down the hall and, after spotting Liz and Carolyn in the Card Room, instantly moving toward the other hallway door to that room.
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #122 on: February 07, 2017, 08:34:00 PM »
And now setting up the next scene (where we'll actually be for several slideshow days):

54C    INT:  CARD ROOM - NIGHT

       TODD enters the Card Room.  Carolyn moves to
       him.

And that's when today's first quote -

Page 17/Scene 54C - Carolyn: 'Any luck, darling?'

- comes up, followed by today's second quote -

Page 17/Scene 54C - Todd (Shaking his head): 'I checked the gate house.'

- coming up.

And when it comes to any differences in the dialogue, the directions, or the descriptions, the only thing that's different is Todd actually says "No, I checked the gate house."
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #123 on: February 08, 2017, 08:50:01 PM »
And picking up Scene 54C with today's quote -

Page 17/Scene 54C - Liz: 'The Old Swimming Pool. David plays there.'

- which, with the exception of adding "And" to the beginning of the first sentence, is delivered as written - but, as we can see given today's capture -


- it's actually delivered off screen.
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #124 on: February 08, 2017, 09:20:39 PM »
I was always a little perplexed at the designation "card room." I don't recall that term being used on the show or later incarnations. Was it a Lyndhurst term and DC and company just went along with it?
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #125 on: February 08, 2017, 09:27:58 PM »
Yes, that's how the room is known at Lyndhurst.  [nodassent]  I suppose it got its name because Jay Gould and perhaps earlier owners used the room to play games of cards. The name is even used on many floor plans of the house...
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #126 on: February 09, 2017, 09:14:02 PM »
And picking up Scene 54C with today's first quote -

Page 17/Scene 54C - Todd: 'I was there too, Mrs. Stoddard.'

- coming up, followed in the script by:

       Todd turns, his back is to the door.  Through
       the open door, we see David, delighted, sneaking
       upstairs.

And that's when today's second quote -

Page 17/Scene 54C - Todd: 'I even drove down the back road.'

- comes up.

And when it comes to any differences in the dialogue, the directions, or the descriptions, for the first quote Todd actually says "I looked there too, Mrs. Stoddard", and even though DC has a notation in his script that Todd crosses to Liz when he says that, as can be seen in today's first capture -


- he actually walks toward the other doorway - but something in DC's script notations that is right that can also be seen in today's first capture is the camera widens to a 3 shot - and when the camera angle shifts back to shooting from the hallway, we actually see Todd stop to pound on one of the bookcases while we also see -


- a delighted David emerge from the shadows - however, unlike what's scripted, David does not sneak upstairs because when Todd grabs onto the door frame -


 - David panics and soon moves back into the shadows and remains there as Todd delivers today's second quote exactly as scripted, though, as can be seen in today's second capture -


- only his hand on the door frame is visible - but when the camera angle moves back to the 3 shot in the Card Room, as he walks back to Liz and Carolyn, a completely visible Todd adds an unscripted -


"If Maggie and David are out there, I don't know where
they are."

- which DC also has written into his script, though he has the beginning as "If he and Maggie are out there".
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #127 on: February 10, 2017, 07:44:20 PM »
That last capture above is a particularly wonderful one of Don. A great Friday gift, MB! Thanks!  [snow_kiss]
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #128 on: February 10, 2017, 08:45:38 PM »
Don's part of hoDS ranks as one of the few things I like about the film. Though a good deal of that is probably because I look on hoDS as his last real DS hurrah because after shooting it he only appeared in one more ep of the daytime show...
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #129 on: February 10, 2017, 09:08:49 PM »
And picking up Scene 54C with today's first quote -

Page 17/Scene 54C - Liz: 'Something has happened, I know it.'

- which is actually delivered as "Something has happened to them, I know it.", and DC has added the "to them" in his script - DC also had a notation in his script that Liz would deliver the line in close-up, but that was partially erased, no doubt because, as we can see in today's first capture -


- Liz is barely even seen delivering the line in favor of seeing David starting to sneak off toward the staircase - and today's first quote is almost immediately followed by today's second quote -

Page 17/Scene 54C - Carolyn: 'Now, Mother, the sheriff and his men will be here soon.'

- which is delivered exactly as written, and, as can be seen in today's second capture -


- the camera returns to shooting as a 3 shot with Carolyn moving to sit on the arm of the chair and putting her arm around Liz as she reassures her - and after that we see a snickering David ascending the second set of stairs -


- to the second floor.
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #130 on: February 11, 2017, 06:26:07 PM »
Wrapping up Scene 54C, beginning with today's first quote -

Page 17/Scene 54C - Todd: 'Are Doctor Hoffman and Jeff still with Daphne?'

- coming up, followed in the script by:


                                                        Rev. 3/25/70

54C    CONTD                                         CONTD 54C

And that's when today's second quote -

Page 18/Scene 54C - Liz (nodding): 'I didn't even have a chance to tell Jeff about Maggie. They carried Daphne upstairs...What can be out there?'

- comes up, followed in the script by:

She is at the window.

                           LIZ
            What can have attacked her?

End of scene as scripted.

And as far as any differences in the dialogue, the descriptions, and the directions go, interestingly enough, DC has a notation in his script that before Todd asks today's first quote, Liz would rise, cross to the window and look out, but as can be seen in today's first capture -


- quite obviously that wasn't actually the case in the film because Liz remains sitting - and Liz doesn't nod as she actually answers Todd with "Yes, I didn't have a chance to tell Jeff about Maggie", with all the rest of today's second quote being dropped - and again, interestingly enough, unlike another notation in DC script that says Liz would turn from the window to Carolyn and Todd before answering Todd, Liz doesn't actually do so as she's still sitting - and the rest of the scene supposedly involving Liz at the window and asking "What can have attacked her?" is also dropped in the film - however, what we do see after Liz says her portion of today's second quote is David looking down over the top of the banister -


- and looking quite pleased with himself and then moving off the staircase.
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2017, 08:10:50 PM »
Just curious, does Daphne make any further appearances after the scene with Jeff?
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #132 on: February 12, 2017, 01:14:22 AM »
Yes - and not before too long...
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #133 on: February 12, 2017, 02:46:02 AM »
Once again, before tomorrow's quotes in the slideshow come up, we have a lot more stuff to deal with. And also again, first up is what we must deal with in DC's script:

54D    INT ROOM - OLD HOUSE - NIGHT                      54D
       CLOSEUP MAGGIE

       She is at the door, listening intently O.S.
       We hear FEET MOVING DOWN THE HALL.
       She is afraid.

                                  MAGGIE
                   David?


55     INT CORRIDOR OUTSIDE BEDROOM - NIGHT

       TIGHT on booted feet stopping outside Maggie's
       door.  The CAMERA PANS UP SLOWLY to the door knob.
       A MAN'S HAND, with the same ring we saw when
       Daphne was strangled, reaches out, touches the
       door knob.  He does not turn it.


56     INT - BEDROOM - NIGHT

       Maggie knows the footsteps have stopped there.

                                  MAGGIE
                   David!

57     INT. CORRIDOR - NIGHT

       The hand turning the knob.

58     INT. - BEDROOM - NIGHT

       Maggie stares at the turning knob.  She is terrified.

59     INT. CORRIDOR - NIGHT

       The hand as it moves to the key in the lock.


And as far as any differences in the dialogue, the directions, or the descriptions go, Scene 54D does not appear in the film after Scene 54C because right after the end of Scene 54C we go right to seeing the booted feet moving down the hall portion of Scene 55 - but that is all because things then switch to Scene 54D in which we do see Maggie in close-up as she calls to David as scripted, but we also see her call an unscripted -


"David?"

- with the camera shooting her from behind - and after that we return to Scene 55 with more of the booted feet walking until the camera does indeed pan up to show the hand with the ring reaching out, however, we do not see the doorknob, so obviously nor do we see the hand touch it - then we switch to Scene 56 in which once again Maggie calls out to David questioningly, rather than the way it's scripted, and once again with the camera at her back - however, in close-up Maggie also says an unscripted -


"Answer me, David, I know you're there."

- then things switch to Scene 57, soon followed by Scene 58 where, after seeing the knob turn on her side of the door, Maggie begs an unscripted -


"David, please."

- and we follow that with Scene 59 as we see the hand not only as it moves to the key in the lock, but also as it begins to turn the key.

And yes, the ways in which the scenes appear in this post are exactly the ways they're typed in the script...
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Re: And Now The Return of Another New Slideshow (Sort of), Part 2 [**Now featuring alternate versions of scenes - see replies #18,#21,#23,#49,#64,#69,#76,#88,#90,#100,#105,#107,#115**]
« Reply #134 on: February 12, 2017, 09:55:35 PM »
Even though we've reached the point where DC's script once again has material that's also in the original draft, it's a case that what's in DC's script is so similar to the original draft that it's not worth sharing the original draft's version. But I will point out that in the original draft this portion of DC's Scene 54D is correctly typed as -

       She is at the door, listening intently.  O.S.
       we hear FEET MOVING DOWN THE HALL.

- with the period properly placed after "intently" and "O.S." beginning a new sentence - and in the same scene the word "tentatively" -

                 MAGGIE
              (tentatively)
     David?

- is added to indicate how Maggie is supposed to deliver her line - and Maggie's line -

             MAGGIE
 David!

- is nowhere to be seen in the original version of DC's Scene 56.
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