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Cousin_Barnabas · « **Reply #15 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:06:31 AM »

So far I like Carolyn's spoken dialog better than the stuff they scripted for her. Good changes, imo.

Uncle Roger · « **Reply #16 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:50:27 AM »

I just noticed that the set list refers to Stokes' cottage, rather than Woodard's. Script blooper?

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:52:14 AM »

I've been wondering if anyone was going to catch that.

And there's also a blooper in one of Mrs. Johnson's lines that we've already seen...

Also, a quick heads up that there are two quotes in the slideshow today and, unfortunately, as is the case with the second Robservations slideshow, one has to click on the right button and then click on the left button to first get the first quote to appear with the first graphic or click either button twice. After that, everything lines up fine...

Patti Feinberg · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2015, 07:19:24 PM »

I'm glad this '90 version AT LEAST has Carolyn at 18.
We can tell from OS she's in very early 20s.
I hate-hate-HATE how young (childish truth be told) in 2012 coverage.

Just my opinion,

Patti

Gerard · « **Reply #19 on:** January 07, 2015, 12:49:46 AM »

I think, but am not sure (based upon the Leviathan story line) that Carolyn was born in 1947, which would make her 19 at the beginning of the OS. The '91 version seems a bit older (maybe a couple-or-so years). Of course, the '12 version was 16. As to the age of the '04 Carolyn, just from the wonderful presentation here, she seems to mirror more the '91.

Gerard

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #20 on:** January 07, 2015, 05:06:04 AM »

After yesterday's quote from Carolyn, the script continues with:

Just then, we SEE another young girl, DAPHNE, Elizabeth's niece, attractive, middle 20s, appear in the doorway. DAPHNE Aunt Liz, the folder with the household checks and your estimated tax is in the study. LIZ Thank God there’s one practical Collins left in this world. (CONTINUED)

Revised 2/28/90 6 CONTINUED: Carolyn and Daphne exchange a smile. She shrugs into her coat, crosses to kiss Elizabeth on the cheek. DAPHNE I just have to go over Sam's books at the Blue Whale. I'll be home early. (CONTINUED)

And then at the top of the next page is when Carolyn's first quote from today -

Page 4/Scene 6 - Carolyn: 'I bet Sam's books aren't the only thing you wanna go over... (with a smile) Joe Haskel's probably going to be there too.'

- comes up. And after the script indicates that Daphne chuckles, Carolyn's second quote from today -

Page 4/Scene 6 - Carolyn (CONT'D): 'You know, if you ever get bored with that gorgous hunk, I know somebody who'll be happy to take him off your hands.'

- comes up. Though, of course, all of that is dropped from the pilot. But it's quite interesting that originally the plan was from almost the very outset to establish that Carolyn has the hots for Joe.

And yes - it is the script that misspells gorgeous.

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #21 on:** January 07, 2015, 06:06:18 AM »

Today there are three quotes in the slideshow, so, again, one has to click on the right button and then click on the left button to first get the first quote to appear with the first graphic or this time you can click either button three times...

Uncle Roger · « **Reply #22 on:** January 07, 2015, 06:25:33 AM »

Caught the Mrs. Johnson blooper!

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #23 on:** January 07, 2015, 06:20:30 PM »

The script continues with:

In the b.g., Mrs. Johnson is smoothing the comforter on the bed. Suddenly, she reacts to something under the pillow.

And that's where today's first quote -

Page 4/Scene 6 - Mrs. Johnson: 'What's this?! I didn't put this here.'

comes up - and the scene continues:

The others turn to look. She removes a closed shoebox from under the pillow. CAROLYN (shaking her head) I don't think we should open that... unless somebody has a shotgun handy. Elizabeth looks at her daughter, frowns. LIZ Nonsense. Hand it here, Mrs. Johnson. The woman crosses over, hands it to her. The others gather around. 7 INSERT - BOX As Liz's hand ENTERS SHOT, removes the lid TO REVEAL ... a very large dead RAT! It's head pulverized, its blood all over the inside of the box. LIZ (O.S.) (gasps) Oh, my God! 8 BACK TO SCENE she drops the box, the others stare in horror. (CONTINUED)

Revised 2/28/90 8 CONTINUED:

And that point is when today's second quote -

Page 4A/Scene 8 - Carolyn: 'David's "Welcome to Collinwood".'

- comes up - and the scene continues:

Liz turns angrily. (CONTINUED)

Revised 2/28/90 8 CONTINUED: (2) LIZ Where is he Carolyn? And she starts for the door. CAROLYN Don’t bother, mother. You're not going to find him. Liz stops, turns to face them, the frustration showing on her face. Mrs. Johnson is picking up the box. Carolyn sighs.

And then Carolyn delivers today's third quote -

Page 5/Scene 8 - Carolyn: 'Poor Victoria Winters...'

- and the scene concludes with:

HOLD a beat, and . . .

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #24 on:** January 08, 2015, 01:04:20 AM »

This point in the script is where the pilot first deviates from the script by juggling scenes. In the pilot, the next scene takes place between Roger and Liz. However, the next thing the script deals with is Vicki's arrival at the train station:

9 EXT. COLLINSPORT — TRAIN STATION - NIGHT An antiquated, Victorian, one-room station house, long out of service. O.S. the SOUND of the TRAIN APPROACHING. CAMERA PANS ACROSS the deserted platform to HOLD it pulling into the station. WE WATCH as Vicki, suitcase in hand, steps down onto the platform. 10 CLOSE - VICKI As the train pulls away leaving her Standing there all alone, in the darkness ... She pulls up her collar, looks around Nobody is there to meet her. 11 AT PAY PHONE As she ENTERS SHOT, picks up the receiver, it comes away in her hand. She stands there for a beat, then looking around, walks out of shot.

Though there are a few differences in the pilot. For one, a conductor brings Vicki's suitcase out of the train and then she follows to pick it up and to begin walking away as the train pulls away. Also, she doesn't pull up her collar - but she does indicate that it's quite cold as she looks around hoping that someone is there to greet her. And lastly, when this sequence comes up in the pilot, Scene 11 is dropped - though it could have been amusing. And it is interesting that there's also a pay phone bit in the '04 pilot.

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #25 on:** January 08, 2015, 05:58:56 PM »

Another blurb:

... Dark Shadows fans, rejoice: a two-hour made-for-tv movie, based on the daytime series is slated for production in March, and will air on NBC. Although nothing's defi- nite at this point, there's a chance the movie will serve as a pilot for a possible prime-time series. Original Dark Shad- ows producer Dan Curtis is at the helm. Also: episodes 6-20 of Dark Shadows are being sold in a three-pack video and episodes 1-5, The Resurrection of Bar- nabas Collins, is also available. SOAP OPERA NOW 1-8-90

Ah, those were exciting times to be a DS fan. Not only could we look forward to a new movie and a potential new series, the original show was starting to be released on VHS by MPI.

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #26 on:** January 08, 2015, 06:44:24 PM »

After Vicki's arrival at the train station, the script deals with the scene between Roger and Liz. Here's how it's introduced:

Revised 2/28/90 12 thru OMITTED 14 15 INT. COLLINWOOD - STUDY - NIGHT CLOSE ON ROGER COLLINS, a tall, lean, dark-haired, brooding, man in his late 30s (the tortured Rochester type of "Jane Eyre"), as he stares BY CAMERA. ROGER David did what?! A rat in a shoebox?! ANGLE WIDENS TO INCLUDE Liz standing with her brother in front of the fire. He has a glass of brandy in his hand. Liz just nods. ROGER (CONT’D) We don’t need a governess, we need a psychiatrist. LIZ Roger, please

However, as is quite often the case, things are a bit different in the actual pilot. For one, the scene opens with the wide angle, showing both Roger and Liz - though as can be seen in the screen caps for today, neither are standing in front of the fire and Roger (shockingly!) does not have a brandy. Also, when it comes to today's first quote -

Page 6/Scene 15 - Roger: 'David did what?! A rat in a shoebox?! We don't need a governess, we need a psychiatrist.'

- Roger delivers it all at once, followed closely by Liz' line/today's second quote.

It's also interesting that while there's really no hint of this pilot's Vicki having some sort of psychiatric training, there is when it comes to the Vicki of the '04 pilot.

And who knew that room was supposed to be the study - I always presumed it was the drawing room, which is also how it is identified in the synopses for the pilot in the SHADOWS IN THE '90s: The Dark Shadows Concordance 1991 and Dark Shadows Resurrected books.

Patti Feinberg · « **Reply #27 on:** January 09, 2015, 03:52:57 PM »

Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on January 08, 2015, 01:04:20 AM

11 AT PAY PHONE As she ENTERS SHOT, picks up the receiver, it comes away in her hand. She stands there for a beat, then looking around, walks out of shot.

....it comes away in her hand.

Huh??

Patti

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #28 on:** January 10, 2015, 09:02:03 PM »

I didn't get the chance yesterday to deal with yesterday's quote, so a bit of a belated continuation with Scene 15:

ROGER Elizabeth, you've never even met this girl. She’s been hired by our lawyer! LIZ It doesn't matter. I have absolute faith in his judgement. Roger shakes his head in disbelief. ROGER She's a twenty-five year old girl! LIZ She's highly qualified. ROGER (then, in frustration) All right, since I've been unable to convince you that boarding school is the answer ... let's at least try to put him back in the town school. (CONTINUED)

15 CONTINUED: LIZ Why do you continue to deny the fact that after what happened, they will never take him back.

And after that line, it's unscripted, but Roger turns away and sighs - and that's as far as the scene goes in the pilot as aired on NBC. However, MPI restored the rest of the scene, beginning with:

A beat, Roger turns, crosses to slump heavily in a chair by the window. He takes a swallow of brandy.

Though while Roger is walking over to the chair, also unscripted, he simply says "Elizabeth" and then he slumps in the chair and rests his head against his left hand. And as Liz walks over toward him, she delivers yesterday's quote:

Page 7/Scene 15 - Elizabeth (to Roger): 'He needs a family. He needs a father.'

It's also worth noting that as Roger mentions that Vicki was hired by their lawyer, he walks over to the bar, and as Liz says that doesn't matter, Roger does indeed pour himself a brandy (thank God!). Though he doesn't take a swallow of it after he slumps in the chair. And it is quite titillating how the script simply hints at something happening at the town school with David that was so serious that they'll never take him back...

Mysterious Benefactor · « **Reply #29 on:** January 10, 2015, 10:10:05 PM »

And now the script (and the restored scene) continues with:

He looks up at her. ROGER Last night, just before dusk, I talked him into taking a walk along the beach with me. I couldn't believe it when he agreed to go, but he did. I talked to him about anything I could think of, about Europe, about when I was a kid ... anything. And he wasn't saying a word. Then finally, he pulled at my arm and I stopped and he asked me one question. (a beat) You know what it was? Elizabeth shakes her head no. ROGER (CONT’D) He wanted to know ... if I liked him. (he stares up at her) If I liked him?! ... I went down on my knees and grabbed him, and squeezed him as hard as I could. I said 'David ... David, you're my son. I love you. I love you more than anything else in this world'. 16 CLOSE - ELIZABETH There are tears in her eyes. 17 BACK TO ROGER As he continues: (CONTINUED)

Revised 2/28/90 17 CONTINUED: ROGER (CONT’D) And you know what he did? He just pulled away from me and ran off up the beach ... and disappeared over the rocks. LIZ It takes time, Roger. You two will get to know each other. ROGER (quietly) I'm not so sure, dear sister... (a beat) I'll try to say this so that I'm still left with a shred of self-respect... A long moment as he looks at her, as if trying to get the strength to say what he is about to say. ROGER (CONT’D) I resent him being alive. He puts his head in his hands. When he turns to look back at her there are tears in his eyes.

And at that point is where today's quote -

Page 8/Scene 17 - Roger: 'May the Lord forgive me... But if it would have saved her sanity, I would have left him to die in that burning room.'

- comes up. And then then script concludes Scene 17 with:

And as Elizabeth stares at his tortured face, we HOLD for a beat, and . . .

And this time it's worth noting that Roger's entire lines "I went down on my knees and grabbed him, and squeezed him as hard as I could. I said 'David ... David, you're my son. I love you. I love you more than anything else in this world'" as well as "And you know what he did? He just pulled away from me and ran off up the beach ... and disappeared over the rocks" were even dropped from the restored versions of Scenes 15 & 17. Also, unlike what the script says, Roger doesn't put his head in his hands when he says that he resents David being alive - nor does he have tears in his eyes when he looks at Liz.

And remember that even though in the pilot Vicki's arrival at the train station appears after this, in the script that sequence takes place before this sequence with Roger and Liz.

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