And Even Yet Another New Slideshow

[Mysterious Benefactor]

Before we get to today's quote, it should be mentioned that before it comes up in the script, the script indicates after yesterday's dropped quote that Joe kisses Carolyn again, but she turns pensive. It's at that point that today's quote -

Page 16 - Joe (CONT'D): 'Whoa. These mood-swings could give a guy whiplash. (more serious) What is it? Roger again?

- comes up. However, all of today's quote does not appear in the pilot because also dropped is "Whoa. These mood-swings could give a guy whiplash."

What actually happens in the pilot is that after Carolyn laughingly remarks that Joe's decision to go off on an extended fishing trip is what prompted their extremely amorous (and porthole fogging) makeout session, her mood suddenly becomes pensive. It's at that point that Joe becomes serious and asks "What is it?" and then immediately theorizes "It's Roger again."

[Mysterious Benefactor]

Today's quote -

Page 16 - Carolyn: 'It's everything. The house, this town...'

- is virtually identical to the way it's delivered in the pilot. The differences are Carolyn adds a "no" (i.e. not Roger) and drops the "it's" - as in "No. Everything. The house, this town..."

[Gothick]

Dear gawd, that guy playing Joe Haskell is INCENDIARY.  Did he ever have a career?  Did he do feature films?  Did he ever make gay porno loops?  OK I am getting WAY off topic here...

Enjoying this so much!  I am amazed at how amnesiac I am about my one viewing of this thing.  Of course it was around 10 years ago...

G.

[Uncle Roger]

Gothick, Jason Shaw was primarily a model for Tommy Hilfiger, among others. And he apparently was an underwear model. He has a few acting credits, the highlight being three episodes of Charmed. No acting credits past 2009. He was linked romantically to Paris Hilton for awhile,  so there may be some adult content out there somewhere.

As an aside, David Fumero (the very hot Christian Vega from One Life to Live) told me that he had tested for a part in DS 2004. He didn't tell me which part but I think it would have to have been Joe or Willie Loomis.

[Josette]

I've been wanting to ask since this started:
1)  How do you know all the details of the show?  I assume you could only have seen it once or twice at a festival.
2)  More puzzling, how do you possibly have access to the script to compare them??!!

[Mysterious Benefactor]

For now let's just say we have our sources. 

[Mysterious Benefactor]

He has a few acting credits, the highlight being three episodes of Charmed.

Interestingly, the reason Shaw appeared on Charmed and was cast in the '04 DS pilot is because he had a holding/development deal with the WB. I forget now how long it was supposed to last for, and it may have expired prematurely when the WB morphed in the CW - but apparently nothing much ever really materialized because of it.

No acting credits past 2009.

When I was searching the Internet for possible photos to use for this slideshow, I came across some articles that said that Shaw has gotten into architecture and design. There's even a YouTube video showcasing a property he redesigned: Former Model Jason Shaw's Laurel Canyon Remodel

He was linked romantically to Paris Hilton for awhile,  so there may be some adult content out there somewhere.

Back when Shaw was cast in the pilot there were all sorts of rumors about a Paris Hilton sex tape. However, supposedly it features her with someone other than Shaw, which would have been a smart move on his part...

[Gothick]

Good for Jason making such a smart career change.  And for staying out of the Hilton slag's insidious publicity miasma.

"That's hot..."  I think not, Paris.

Back on topic, it's cool that this version returned to an update of the original 1966 Carolyn/Joe relationship.  I'm not sure about the 1990 version, but didn't that Carolyn take an interest in Joe after Daphne's death; their relationship wasn't part of the setting of the scene at the beginning?

It's really too bad the WB never circulated any publicity stills from this production...

G.

[Cousin_Barnabas]

Yes, G.  That is correct.  Joelyn did not become a thing until after Daphne departed, which I always found sort of creepy.  The 1991 show was certainly a product of its weird time.  A lot of those relationships were spawned from the primetime soap mentality of that whole period. 

[Mysterious Benefactor]

I have quite a few things to catch up on in this topic - especially considering that a new scene will begin on the 23rd.

First up, there were two bits of dialogue dropped from the script between the quotes for April 13th and 14th. The dialogue in the script appears as follows:

JOE
We talked about this. My work's
here, my friends. I can't just up
and go.

CAROLYN
I know.

JOE
So I'll ask again. What's wrong?

CAROLYN
Maybe I'm just afraid.

No doubt the lines were dropped because they're fairly redundant.

Also, what Joe actually says instead of the quote for the 13th is "Now, we talked about this. My work is here, my friends, my family" and the "I can't just up and go" part is dropped.

It's also interesting that in the pilot Joe mentions having family, which he basically didn't on the original DS until the Jennings siblings showed up more than two years into the show - and even then they were simply there to facilitate Joe being written out of the show. And with the '91 DS I don't believe there were even any hints of Joe having family. But one can't help but wonder if we would have seen any of his family in the WB DS and if they would have played any major part in his life/storyline?

[Mysterious Benefactor]

When it comes to the quote for the 16th -

Page 16 - Carolyn: 'That if I don't get away soon, I'll wind up like my mother. Afraid of the world, hiding from every shadow...'

- what Carolyn actually says in the pilot is "Well, for one thing that I'll wind up like my mother. Completely crazy." Joe then has an added bit where he jokes "Too late" - and they both laugh. And that's followed by the quote for the 17th -

Page 16 - Joe: 'Elizabeth's tougher than you think. And trust me, so are you.'

- though in the pilot it's delivered as "Elizabeth is tougher than you think. And believe me, so are you." And they kiss.

[Mysterious Benefactor]

Before the quote for the 18th -

Pages 16 & 17 - Carolyn: 'I'd better get back, (as Joe starts up) (MORE) Don't get up. You have an early day tomorrow.'

- Carolyn reaches for her clothes. However, the parts where Joe starts up and Carolyn says "Don't get up. You have an early day tomorrow" were dropped - as were the quotes for the 19th -

Page 17 - Joe: 'At least let me give you a ride back to the house.'

- and the 20th -

Page 17 - Carolyn: 'Keep your shirt off. (with a smile) Roger asked me to pick up the Mercedes over at Griffin's garage. I'll catch a quick drink at the Blue Whale, then drive up.'

- and when we get to a later point in the pilot, it will become clear as to why the quote from the 20th, in particular, was dropped.

[Mysterious Benefactor]

Before the quote for the 21st, Joe can see that after their kiss Carolyn has become somewhat sad, and that's why the script has him saying:

Page 17 - Joe: 'Hey. I can put the trip off.'

And when it comes to the quote for the 22nd -

Page 17 - Carolyn: 'And risk disappointing all those hungry monkfish? (kisses him) I'll see you when you get back.'

- the only part that somewhat survives in the pilot is the last part - the "And risk disappointing all those hungry monkfish?" bit is dropped, and what Carolyn actually says is "I'd better get back." But as Carolyn prepares to leave Joe has an added bit of dialogue when apparently he can't believe that's all she has to say so he asks her "You're goin' out like that?" And to that Carolyn replies with something that no one that I know who's seen the pilot seems to be able to decipher. It's something like "I know (something or other)" but who knows what the something or other is. Though whatever it is, she does say it playfully, so it's not like she's leaving in anger. But she does leave Joe bemused.

[Mysterious Benefactor]

As I alluded to the last time I posted a chart to help to illustrate where the various scenes we've covered so far appear in the script and where they appear in the pilot, in the pilot two groups of scenes jump ahead of the recently concluded slideshow scene between Carolyn and Joe on his boat. The first of these groups of scenes begins with today's quote. And as you can see from the chart below, this first group is a very significant group of scenes:

In fact, they'll be the most significant scenes covered in the slideshow up to this point. And with the relationship among the scenes far more clearer now, it's probably also much clearer as to why only one color has been used in the chart to indicate where the first group of scenes has jumped to in the pilot from the placement the group has in the script.

As for setting the first scene and starting to dissect its quotes, that will begin in my next post...

[Mysterious Benefactor]

The script sets up the current scene as follows:

EXT. FAMILY CEMETERY - COLLINWOOD - NIGHT

Jagged, decrepit monuments and crypts glow under the moonlight, seemingly untouched for decades, as

WILLIE AND KELLY,

flashlights on, enter the grounds. Pushing through a broken gate, Kelly suppresses a shiver, her breath puffing white.

It's at that point that Kelly delivers the quote for the 23rd -

Page 17 - Kelly: '"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here..."'

- and Willie delivers the quote for today -

Page 17 - Willie: 'What's that, Aerosmith?'

- exactly as scripted. (And Willie's question would definitely add quite a bit of credence to Gothick's theory that Kelly is definitely the brains of this operation!  )

Also, because there aren't any publicly available photos of the cemetery, mausoleum, or any of the mausoleum's interiors, I've taken a bit of license with the graphics for this group of scenes and used shots from the '91 DS as backgrounds. After all, if you've seen one cemetery and the exterior/interiors of one mausoleum, you've pretty much seen them all.    However, I will be sharing some official photos connected to these scene as we get a bit further down the road with them.